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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:52 pm 
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Thanks for confirming. Sorry to derail thread. A final point on chest armor: The DVV chest only is about 23" along top width. Don Post/Eller photos against brick wall looks to be about 21" wide but that is a really rough estimate based on standard brick dimensions and perspective. So I guess the DVV and probably yours are not undersized. Sorry again.
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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:06 pm 
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No need for sorry! I was very curious DVV armor and it looks pretty darn good from this photo! In your post here you are saying they estimate at different sizes but I'd bet they are the same. The DVV photo here looks like a great line up along its left shoulder too but accurate on the right as well. All very good.

I will measure at some point. And I hope to mold it at some point too but that will be months out at the soonest. (it took me over a year to just get it scanned even though the "scanners" were ready to go)

Maybe a new thread can start up as soon as I get more particulars posted and measure it up. One of the main things is to measure its distances front to back.


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Thanks for confirming. Sorry to derail thread. A final point on chest armor: The DVV chest only is about 23" along top width. Don Post/Eller photos against brick wall looks to be about 21" wide but that is a really rough estimate based on standard brick dimensions and perspective. So I guess the DVV and probably yours are not undersized. Sorry again.
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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:00 am 
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Looking forward to it!


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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:27 pm 
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A little update. Haven't done much since I've been suffering from a stomach infection. Hasn't been a great couple of weeks. In the last few days I've been feeling better and started working on the scans again. I'll probably run the face mask through the fuse again as I may have set the resolution a bit lower than I would have been able to fuse it, so I'll take another stab at it. I also worked on the old print models, trying to fix them, and I think it turned out pretty great. Will need to run the ESB through the fuse again to see if I can get it just a bit better, so I won't be showing that off. Due to the new fuse I was able to set the mouth grill deeper in the mouth - more accurate - than I was able to do before, so that's a plus. Had to go back to the original grill models as I had butchered the ones I fixed previously and it was easier to start from scratch rather than trying to fix the mistakes I made.

First off is the DJ armor and helmet scans.
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And next is the v2 ANH print model fixed and looking nice. :)
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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:54 am 
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Very cool.


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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:13 am 
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The new fuse of the DJ face mask can be seen in the assembled picture. I quickly edited the fuse blob out of the dome to create this image. I trimmed a lot of the slices from unnecessary bits to create a cleaner version and re-aligned some of the additional slices to better match the model eliminating a lot of the previous errors. Also managed to fuse it in a higher resolution so the edges are a lot sharper - more in line with the other pieces.

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Now I just need to fix the ESB face mask fuse, as well as work some more on the ESB dome and chest and belt boxes.


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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:11 pm 
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Looks great. I know it's not the intended purpose, but I want to see it animated in some way.


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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:20 am 
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Thanks. I sadly don't know how. I can ask the modeler who did the symmetrical helmet video to do something cool if he has time and wants to do it. I still love looking at that Youtube video he made.

A small update: The DJ as well as the rest of the v2 project will hopefully be printed in the early months of next year once all the 3D models have been finished and prepared for printing. Once I've gotten them back and after I've inspected it I will send everything as well as some of the already printed v2 pieces on to the new producer who will mold and cast these for me and make them available. I'm hoping the schedule holds, but delays can happen, but I'm crossing everything I have in order for everything to go well.

Expect updates all along the way as this is gearing up for finalization. Armor kits and busts first and then statues later.


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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:16 am 
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What is a "fuse blob" ?


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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:27 pm 
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It is extra material that is added to an open or hollow model where the rear or inner surface wasn't scanned as well, in order to make it into a solid model you can print. If you want to make the prints look like the original props that were scanned you remove the "blob" and either extrude or add thickness to the model, depending on what tools you have available.


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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:23 am 
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I think I'm done working on the chest boxes. I fixed the lights on both boxes and the greeblies on the ESB box. Can't say it's perfect and it may be difficult to see in the picture, but the lights are now extending out from the box a bit more and were narrowed vertically - I didn't have measurements of the original lights used, so scaled them by eye and re-positioned them on the box.

Though the original boxes were really wonky, which is something I simply don't have the skill to do with the models, I think I'm getting pretty close to how it should look. If you spot anything that could need more work, please let me know.

I'll try and get the belt boxes finished as well. Still need to try my hand at creating the knurling effect on the metal rods and perhaps tweak some of the other bits, but it's slowly getting there.

Old boxes are on the left and new boxes are on the right:

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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:53 pm 
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So cool! I'm no expert but on the ANH- perhaps a bit softer outer edge (folded edge between face and sides,) and slightly more curvature on the sides?


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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:04 am 
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You mean the main box? I can't alter that unfortunately. I don't have the modeling skill to do it.


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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:27 am 
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Working on the ESB face mask. Am having a bit of trouble with the chin vent opening. I simply cut it open in the first picture below, but it needs to be fixed properly. Just not sure how to do it yet.

As you can probably tell it's a little different than the previous ESB face mask I had printed some time back. It no longer has the neck extension of the previous model. It is also a lot sharper and I was able to place the grill deeper in the mouth opening due to fixing the issue with the mouth on the model. All in all much better if I could just figure out how to fix the chin vent.

New to the left, old version to the right.
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And thought it could be fun to show off the TM based face mask models. ANH towards the left in the picture, symmetrical ANH in the middle and the ESB WIP towards the right. Currently the chin vent fix is very crude, so I'll work on making that look better.
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 Post subject: Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project
PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:47 am 
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With the new chest box light measurements I reworked the lights on the 3D model. It's even better now. Nothing beats actual measurements over estimating it by eye, and I had made the lights a tad bit too large. That is fixed now. I will work some more on the ANH lights as I also got very good reference showing all angles of the lights. I won't add in all details as it might make it difficult to mold and cast them in that small scale and not rip the molds when taking out the casts, so some of the undercuts won't be as severe as on the real lights.


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