Hello!

I'm currently making vader codpieces and doing quite well. I'm in the process of designing ESB/ROTJ gloves as well. I have all the reference photos from the photo reference threads here but I'm wondering if there is any more info about the gloves. Maybe the original screen used gloves are on display somewhere and someone has pics or maybe has handled them in person?

Any more pics, a lot of the links are dead.

Basically every glove I have seen either uses inaccurate stitching or has not nailed the style and design of the gloves, the shape of the fingers, the quilted part etc.

This is my first post here, been lurking for a long time. Hope I have not broken any rules

Thanks

/Enes

So there is no more info?

I believe Endorfinders is working on ESB gloves. He usually matches most details and offers good quality gloves. As for yours, I focus on ANH, but perhaps you might list each specific design detail for which you still need guidance, and someone may be able to provide info and/or photos.

I don't need guidance, I just wonder if there is anything more available other than the reference pics here?

I wonder why all vendors do the upper cuff part straight, it looks curved to me. If I measure the angles of the quilted part and straighten everything out it doesn't add up. The upper gauntlet part or "cuff" must be slightly curved and not straight cut. Also everyone is doing a straight finger template when it looks like a classic slanted style to me.

I'm wondering if they know something I don't. Maybe there are pictures of the originals where they are lying flat.

Well I just made my new gloves from scratch, the process of doing so made me realize a couple of things. First they must have made the gloves to Prowse’s specific measurements, so for anyone else to look the same I guess they should be done to fit.

Also Not everyone has the same proportions, for example , I have very long forearms so my cuffs are longer than what I found as reference.

Yes I believe the fingers must be tapered and have angled fourchettes (pieces between fingers) to properly fit the hand perfectly, Other wise they would look very loose like ski gloves or welder gloves, and I’m pretty sure Prowse had big thick weight lifting hands.

The padding on the back hand , they are 6 rectangles, the 4 in the middle somewhere between 3/4” and 1” wide, the outer 2 about 1/2”, but they are not exactly rectangular because once after the wrist the pattern must widen to fit the diameter of the arm, then the tapered “wing” of the cuff is about 2 1/4” wider than you arm. Those 2” is where the “Y” pattern is drawn and are about 1” wide. So in the back of your hand the rectangles may be 3/4” but one on your forearm they might be 1”.
One more thing, the gusset must be between 2”-3” (I have to correct mine a little)

I’ll try to upload some additional reference photos as well as the template I made for mine. It was a long process of measuring each finger and and add and subtract sewing seams and tolerances.

The cuff looks a little long....Dont forget the gloves are suppose to fold over on the sleeve of the suit and the gauntlet is only suppose to be mid forearm. Other then that your pattern is looking really good.

Yup, my cuffs are slightly long. I will have to shorten them a bit. They do fold at the wrist enough, However on the photo I did tried my best to show the entire extended piece, my main worry at that point was the gusset.

The point that I was trying to make is that the template is not exactly straight and not exactly rectangular, the fingers are definitely tapered (about 2 or 3 mm) but that makes a huge difference on how the glove fits and looks (no flappy finger tips). Also, it seems the gloves are machine stitched not hand stitched (stitch them as best you can) and the seam is exposed and not on the inside (you can see the leather’s cut edge), and the thumb piece is overlaps on the palm and has a “fourchette tab” for correct thumb motion.




EDIT: fixed the quote issue. TPD Staff.

Haven't read here that much, thanks for the reply. I Think you made a very nice glove but they look exactly like everyone else is making them. Not completely accurate IMO. The shape of the whole glove is a bit off and also the top of the gauntlet is straight and not curved.

I made one prototype glove since I made the thread and it turned out quite good. However the Project came to a pause since I've been busy with some other vader stuff. Will resume soon.

If you could show a pic of your template or glove would be nice.
I know what you mean, I went for a full stop myself, life happens.
Cheers