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 Post subject: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt helmets
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:14 pm 
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Interesting insight I gleaned from the Star Wars Costumes book that came out today. According to the author, "Approximately six fiberglass Darth Vader Helmets were created for Empire Strikes Back. Beyond the six standard helmets, two or three special stunt helmets were designed and constructed for sword stuntman Bob Anderson who performed in ESB and ROTJ."


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:03 am 
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Interesting but not definitive. Does the book indicate where these helmets are now? As far as LFL archive , private collection , etc?


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:16 am 
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Sith-Smith wrote:
Interesting but not definitive. Does the book indicate where these helmets are now? As far as LFL archive , private collection , etc?


Unfortunately no. The book does provide photos of an ESB stunt helmet as well as a reconditioned ESB helmet and an unmodified ROTJ helmet.


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:58 am 
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Very cool.
Isn't that info in line with what the information the "vader heavy hitters" compiled in one of the esb threads. I recall reading there was 5 or 6 & not sure if the TM was included as one of those as the early paint scheme test mock up lid.
That's the bit that interests me the most as a big TM helmet fan.

Any chance of some images? Is Brandon on this site? Any extra comments from him on this topic would be great.

Thanks for posting.
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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:59 am 
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I think you will have to ask him on the RPF. Dont know if he is a member here. Yesterday i saw a short promotion clip for the book on facebook. There you can see Brandon standing in front of a huge rack full of Vader Suits and some helmets sitting on a table. Looks like there is still a lot of Vader stuff in the archieves. Dont know if all is screen used or just promotion stuff. At least the look of the archieves has changed within the past years....now its very clean and organized and the props are displayed and in storage as they should be from the very beginning. :thumbsup

Regarding the TM....i dont think it is on the official list of used helmets for the production and never was.


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:07 am 
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Is it true that one of those 6 helmets could be the ANH original reworked? I read this somewhere but I'm not sure... :rolleyes


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:25 am 
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Honestly, I wish they would consult with ron punter or the plasterer boss to get their recollections.
It's one of the best sources there is.


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:41 am 
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I think the ANH helmet was refurbished for ESB....everything else wouldnt make any sense.


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:00 pm 
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Darth Niob wrote:
I think the ANH helmet was refurbished for ESB....everything else wouldnt make any sense.

So may be it is still in the Lucas archives, or some collector has the original helmet hidden in his collection! :eek


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:36 pm 
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Its definetly not in the archieves. So many were there and nobody has ever seen the ANH


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:01 pm 
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Darth Niob wrote:
Its definetly not in the archieves. So many were there and nobody has ever seen the ANH


Yes but it's an ESB now,


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:08 pm 
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Thats what i said :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:30 pm 
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Fener wrote:
Darth Niob wrote:
Its definetly not in the archieves. So many were there and nobody has ever seen the ANH


Yes but it's an ESB now,


Perhaps even a ROTJ :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:48 pm 
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zachilles wrote:
Interesting insight I gleaned from the Star Wars Costumes book that came out today. According to the author, "Approximately six fiberglass Darth Vader Helmets were created for Empire Strikes Back. Beyond the six standard helmets, two or three special stunt helmets were designed and constructed for sword stuntman Bob Anderson who performed in ESB and ROTJ."


From my professional perspective (I've been a vfx producer for 20 years and worked with costumes and props on a professional level) these numbers do make sense. The question I have is: what's the source of the information? Pure recollection or authentic production documents? I've spoken with quite a few crew members from the OT who were involved in producing and handling the props and costumes for the movies, and even their memories differ from each other a lot. Remember, we are talking about films that were produced more that 30 years ago.

As an example, when I researched the origins and history of the original Highlander swords I was able to source production material such as purchase orders and original invoices from service providers. I literally searched dozens of cardboard boxes full of unsorted papers in different places. I even remember that in one of these boxes I accidentally found pictures of the screen used Vader ANH faceplate when it was stored away in Britain.


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 Post subject: Re: SW Costumes: Six ESB Darth Vader helmets & 2-3 stunt hel
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:19 pm 
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Darth Niob wrote:
Thats what i said :wink:


I mean: how can you recognize the original ANH under an ESB? :discussion


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