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Aww, come on. Step up on this one since you can, I know you can do it. :wink:

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Really, worst case you could send me a set and I'll do the measuring & pic taking.

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Whenever I look at pictures/screen captures of the ANH tusks they simply scream "custom made" to me. Not milled or a found piece, but made from 3 individual pieces: 1 allen screw head screw, a slim round spacer, and a ridged bottom end cap. And the "tapered" area between spacer and end cap doesn't look straight to me or extends all the way out to the edge of the end cap, but looks curved; more in line with someone filling the cap between the two pieces with filler and then running a finger over it to smooth it out.

All these pieces are very simple... just a matter of finding the right ones at the right size.

This is what I see and thought I'd throw it out there... and it is in no way an indication of how the originals were made... just speculation on my part, based on available pictures.

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I dunno....to me it looks like a found item. There are so many bits that look like this.....rivet head, grease nipple, spark plug electrode, etc....could be anything.


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It might look that way but it's actually one piece. Yes Carsten I agree that there's some curvature in the base/stalk boundary, something most of the makers neglect in their designs.


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SithLord wrote:
It might look that way but it's actually one piece.

Interesting. But the thought of a put together piece actually came from the large Tantive pictures of Vader... I think even from one of your grabs. On the black tusk, where the paint has been scraped, there is a distinctive ridge that bends two times at the very tip... and if you continue the lines you may get a sextant(?) - very similar to the tip of a allen head screw - only filled in, but the edges slightly exposed from the paint-rub.

SL, would I be allowed to use your capture to show what I'm talking about, as it is showing this the best, or should I try to find another picture?

It may not be anything... just kinda odd to have such a distinct feature showing.

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Yes Carsten I agree that there's some curvature in the base/stalk boundary, something most of the makers neglect in their designs.

True.. I know nothing of milling, so have no clue how difficult it would be to make such a curve. However, I found some screw bits that had a knurled base that curved into a stem - can't see if it is ridged with straight lines or grid lines intercrossing.
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On the black tusk, where the paint has been scraped, there is a distinctive ridge that bends two times at the very tip... and if you continue the lines you may get a sextant(?) - very similar to the tip of a allen head screw - only filled in, but the edges slightly exposed from the paint-rub.

SL, would I be allowed to use your capture to show what I'm talking about, as it is showing this the best, or should I try to find another picture?

It may not be anything... just kinda odd to have such a distinct feature showing.



Sure thing no problem...I captured/enhanced the HD grabs but of course I don't really have a say about them but just watermark them so people know the source...getting them wasn't easy.

Carsten that's an illusion because there's a big flake of black paint that came off at a diagonal to the long axis of the tusk, making it look like a discontinuity...but it's the same kind tusk on both sides...


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I think I remembered wrong about the picture... I'll go through everything tomorrow, as it's getting too late here now.

Sorry about that...

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This might help...

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Great to see this discussion going on.
When I was looking for tusks last year I asked around about info on accurate tusks. Bigbaddaddyvader has a set he says are original, but it seems noone else thinks they are.

It think I might have mentioned at the time, I have the machinery to produce tusks relatively easily and would be happy to offer them to other people, it would just be a case of getting the correct dimensions to me.

Does anyone think they have a closer set of dimensions than those being offered already, let me know and I will get on to it.

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I heard that they may have been those little knobs on filing cabinets . . . you know, like these:

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SithLord wrote:
This might help...

Sorry, but no. They are a bit too fussy. Had a look at Darth Kahnt's HD archive as well... and honestly... it just looks like a lighting effect.

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what looks like a lighting effect? The paint loss? I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing :blah


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SithLord wrote:
what looks like a lighting effect? The paint loss? I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing :blah


I think that's why in certain cultures people tilt their head side to side. It doesn't look like either a nod or a shaking of the head. It's almost like they're acknowledging what you're saying but are actually implying, "I am neither confirming nor denying!" :toothy

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This time I'm actually agreeing that it doesn't look like it has that straight angled line at the tip of the tusks to possibly indicate the edges of a filled in allen head screws. At least I cannot see it in any of the pictures I have looked at here or in my own saved files. Really weird.

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