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 Post subject: Re: Wanna see where many Star Wars props (screen used) ends?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:38 pm 
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My guess is that, to a degree, Lucasfilm does not care. They care about what is on screen, not off. My opinion. The only time this changes is when a collector "acts up" or looks to cash in via some inappropriate manner. They seem cool with most all of the auctions thus far, etc.

I suspect that, if someone at Disney realizes what this is, they might be able to arrange for it to go to auction and then simply win the auction. Something like that.

But I think that this guy is in the clear legally.

I'm just hoping for photo shots of the other helmets in the background of that video.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:51 am 
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I'm not sure where disney stands on this though as ol George still owns the archives and everything in it.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:18 pm 
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Nobody here will get a 3D scan of this helmet nor to view and measure it in person. So we just have these few pics of it and i don't need to see more that this is the mask or at least one of the two Lindsay has mentioned.


I certainly wouldn't let anyone make and take a 3D scan of this mask if I owned it either. But I *might* let someone use 3D scanner at my site to use it and a computer I supply to perform specific analyses agreed to ahead of time, under strict security and confidentiality agreement. The purpose of which could benefit the owner to further verify the claim of its provenance. The results of that analysis might be allowed to be made public, but certainly not the 3D scan data.

Since I can't use a 3D model of this mask to compare against a 2D image of the original ANH mask, I'll try the converse. And that is to compare a 2D image of this mask to a 3D model of the original ANH mask. Well, a very crude and distorted 3D model of a portion of the original ANH mask.

A good set of views of the right cheek from ANH are during Vader's visit with the Princess as he turns slowly to the right. Here is one screen capture from that scene:

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I submitted 15 consecutive images from that scene to Autodesk 123D Catch. It generated the following "thing": http://www.123dapp.com/catch/C-Scar/5058076. The depth of the features is greatly exaggerated, but I think it does show fairly well the locations of the peaks and valleys across the area of the cheek.

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Lambotour, if I may, I'll reuse one of your feature match images of the C-Scar and overlay a viewpoint of the C-Scar from this 3D Model to see how they line up:

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Which for the C-Scar looks like a pretty good match to my eye!


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:16 am 
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I don't see anything on that blurry pic.


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I don't see anything on that blurry pic.

To make it more than intuitively obvious, I should have colored the part from the blurry picture I was referring to with a crayon.


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Ok the original ANH helmet was found. Now we have to find the Rimet cup and the first Paul McCartney Hofner bass. :toothy


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Yes, please keep debates not really concerning the real screen used face mask found in France in other threads, so we don't clutter this one. Please. :)

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I split the discussions not pertaining to the found screen used helmet off into a separate thread. I tried merging it with one of the threads already there, but it just made a mess of things in that thread, so I split it off into it's own topic.

It wouldn't mess up the TD thread, post wise, but I'm not sure it fits in that one even that thread does discuss the SL helmet and details in parts. If Thomas, Sithlord, is okay with it I can move it into that thread to keep things tidy or I could just leave it in its new position.

Can be found here: split-topic-wanna-see-where-many-star-wars-props-ends-vt4864.html

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thanks!


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It was a good idea to split the threads

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The Alien Space Jockey was another masterful and iconic work sculpted by Brian Muir. Some version of it is seen in this collection. I was curious if that was the original sculpted by Muir or a scaled down version used in the Alien filming, etc. To anyone with the book, is there any info on that piece? Thanks!


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I believe that is the concept maquette made by Giger.

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I did some web browsing about the Alien "pilot" or "space jockey" to understand who did what. Giger provided the overall artistic vision and references for the derelict spacecraft entrance and space jockey, and Brian and Peter Voysey sculpted and constructed the sets for them. What a hellish vision it was to realize! http://alienexplorations.blogspot.com/1979/08/derelict-entrance.html?m=1


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Hi guys does anybody have a copy of the video. Or hosting it elsewhere looks like the original link is not working anymore -

http://www.wat.tv/video/star-wars-ce-co ... .html#t=12

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I saved both videos. Sent a pm.

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