recent screen grabs of original ROTJ and ESB helmets

juan7fernandez · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:56 am **Posts:** 230

Its been a bit quiet around here lately, so I'm gonna share these shots I screen grabbed recently of a few original helmets. I'm sure a lot of you have already seen this but maybe a few of you havent.

First is the carst from the original ROTJ that was used for making the ROTS:

Next is one of the original ROTJ helmets in the archives. I cant remember where I got these from:

and lastly this is the original ESB that was shortly featured in Mark Hamill's Pop Culture Quest show

No Humor Man · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:20 am

Awesome shots. Yeah... that RotJ they cast to use as reference for the RotS, it really looks lovely.

Didn't see those RotJ archive shots before. Cool.

And that ESB... very lovely. Can you post the link to the video, please, so it will be easy to find?

craigjohn · **Joined:** Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:51 pm **Posts:** 528

Look how shallow those teeth are - very much like the Ghost Host ROTJ. They look incredibly fragile.

juan7fernandez · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:56 am **Posts:** 230

Craig- Thats was one of the first things I noticed. there is a lot of really good details in the closeup shot.

Also here is the link to the Pop Culture Quest episode. The Vader helmet is exactly at 9:32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJXpDL_mWCg

No Humor Man · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:34 pm

They just filled the mouth walls to cover the grill. They knew they didn't need the correct depth or grill detail so instead of filling from the rear, they just filled from the front. It's very clear what they did.

craigjohn · **Joined:** Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:51 pm **Posts:** 528

That's a cool video, Juan. Thanks for sharing. I love that ESB Vader helmet - likely a close relative of the original of the TM.

juan7fernandez · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:56 am **Posts:** 230

I love how they cleaned up the and sharpened the edge of the lip just below the teeth. very noticeable on the raw cast.

sskunky · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:50 pm

What a great thread. Thanks for posting these pics. Just what I needed. :thumbsup

dcarty · **Posted:** Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:56 pm

Excellent--thanks for posting these Juan! I love the caps from the Kazanjian interview. Also love how the neck-line on the RotJ helmet matches up quite well with the DP Deluxe.

Dave

Turrican · **Posted:** Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:31 am

Thx. for posting those pic's :thumbsup

So definitve no neck extension for RotJ. Agree , not agree?
Telling from the pic's above i would say it's still there.

No Humor Man · **Posted:** Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:42 pm

Turrican wrote:

Thx. for posting those pic's :thumbsup

So definitve no neck extension for RotJ. Agree , not agree?
Telling from the pic's above i would say it's still there.

I haven't seen any indication of there being a neck extension on any RotJ helmet. The only helmets that I have seen that sport the neck extension are a few ESB helmets. If the casts made for RotJ had them (if there were additionals made), then the extensions were trimmed off.

juan7fernandez · **Joined:** Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:56 am **Posts:** 230

I had these pictures in my hard drive. Totally forgot I had them or even where I got them from. So if these pictures are from anyone here ( and you dont want me sharing them) please let me know , and I'll take them down.

This ROTJ helmet shows no signs of extension and its a great reference for the teeth depth. I know the raw cast I shared up top has filled vents but this one still shows them being rather thin and tapered.

Turrican · **Posted:** Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:04 am

Cool. Also a had a few of them while building on my RotS Vader stuff some years ago.
If i recall correct than those are from the Celebration IV.

Never noticed how wide the straps were at this helmet. :cheers

jkno · **Posted:** Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:53 am

Great stuff indeed!! Thanks for sharing :cheers

craigjohn · **Joined:** Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:51 pm **Posts:** 528

WOW! Awesome pics, Juan. Thanks for sharing. :thumbsup