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The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
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Author:  craigjohn [ Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:07 pm ]
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All ears on this Thomas. Would love to hear what you have. :)

Author:  trooper18938 [ Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:36 pm ]
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absolutely gorgeous! looks like "liquid nails" was the glue?

Author:  Lambotour [ Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:04 pm ]
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I was wondering when/if this helmet would make a public appearance. I have a pic of it from many years ago that was shared with me by a friend. I thought it was in Europe somewhere? It appears to be in the same state now as it was way back then in the photo. Interesting to see it surface now. Either way, thanks for showing it. Looks similar to the TM and the TD before those two had any alterations done to them.

Author:  craigjohn [ Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:43 pm ]
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Lambotour wrote:
I was wondering when/if this helmet would make a public appearance. I have a pic of it from many years ago that was shared with me by a friend. I thought it was in Europe somewhere? It appears to be in the same state now as it was way back then in the photo. Interesting to see it surface now. Either way, thanks for showing it. Looks similar to the TM and the TD before those two had any alterations done to them.



Careful. Gino my take sentence the wrong way. LOL

Author:  Lambotour [ Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:18 am ]
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craigjohn wrote:
Lambotour wrote:
I was wondering when/if this helmet would make a public appearance. I have a pic of it from many years ago that was shared with me by a friend. I thought it was in Europe somewhere? It appears to be in the same state now as it was way back then in the photo. Interesting to see it surface now. Either way, thanks for showing it. Looks similar to the TM and the TD before those two had any alterations done to them.



Careful. Gino my take sentence the wrong way. LOL


The original TM was altered once it came out of the mold in preparation for ESB. That's what I meant. As far as the TD, I refer to the neck extension that was once there. If you had all 3 side by side, I'm sure there are a lot more similarities.

Author:  craigjohn [ Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:37 am ]
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...My tongue was firmly planted in my cheek.

Author:  SithLord [ Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:21 am ]
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Lambotour wrote:
craigjohn wrote:
Lambotour wrote:
I was wondering when/if this helmet would make a public appearance. I have a pic of it from many years ago that was shared with me by a friend. I thought it was in Europe somewhere? It appears to be in the same state now as it was way back then in the photo. Interesting to see it surface now. Either way, thanks for showing it. Looks similar to the TM and the TD before those two had any alterations done to them.



Careful. Gino my take sentence the wrong way. LOL


The original TM was altered once it came out of the mold in preparation for ESB. That's what I meant. As far as the TD, I refer to the neck extension that was once there. If you had all 3 side by side, I'm sure there are a lot more similarities.



Well the only "alteration" on the TD is the shorter tusk tube ends. Perhaps the refinements made to the rear undercut and top of the upper tube ends but that's about it. I'm not sure why you would (still?) say there was once a neck extension on the TD ANH when you haven't seen it in person, and if you did you would see that it has a bottom neck edge that has cut marks that are part of the casting and which therefore came from the mold and was therefore not trimmed after that fact.

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The TM is a copy of an original ESB mask which itself had the eyebrows modified on their front edges as well as inside the eyebrows and along the inside of the nose bridge. The TM dome is original.

Actually side by side there are quite a number of differences between the TD and TM...perhaps for another thread :).

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Author:  Fatherless One [ Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:24 am ]
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SithLord wrote:
So I did some searching through my reference material and found that I had a photo of this helmet from January 2007. And I know about the crew member you are talking about. But if it is the person I'm thinking of, why would they be asking about it here when they themselves have said what it is?


Perhaps fishing for a Value? An investor?

Interesting indeed.

Author:  Fatherless One [ Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:38 am ]
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The dome is very interesting.

I'd love to see a tab comparison between the TM, TD and now this ROTJ (I can't remember if the SL had the tabs intact).

Author:  HDPE [ Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:59 am ]
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Maybe I'm reading things backward but I think he said the crew member passed away, so the new owner might not have been given all the details.

Author:  Sith-Smith [ Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:12 am ]
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HDPE wrote:
Maybe I'm reading things backward but I think he said the crew member passed away, so the new owner might not have been given all the details.


That is correct - after the passing of the crew member the helmet was inherited by a close family member. So it's been a family memento they know has some significant importance.

Author:  darthjones [ Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:31 pm ]
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Fatherless One wrote:
The dome is very interesting.

I'd love to see a tab comparison between the TM, TD and now this ROTJ (I can't remember if the SL had the tabs intact).



There were no tabs on DJ/ SL casts. You can see they were unscrewed for molding though.

Author:  SithLord [ Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:25 pm ]
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Fatherless One wrote:
SithLord wrote:
So I did some searching through my reference material and found that I had a photo of this helmet from January 2007. And I know about the crew member you are talking about. But if it is the person I'm thinking of, why would they be asking about it here when they themselves have said what it is?


Perhaps fishing for a Value? An investor?

Interesting indeed.



Turns out this didn't belong to the crew member I thought and I'm hoping the person who knows about this will chime in here...

Author:  SithLord [ Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:32 pm ]
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Fatherless One wrote:
The dome is very interesting.

I'd love to see a tab comparison between the TM, TD and now this ROTJ (I can't remember if the SL had the tabs intact).



As DJ mentioned there are no tabs on the SL. I've had a quick look already comparing the TD/TM and this ROTJ helmet tabs but need to see what differences they might have when I get some time.

This helmet needs a name. UK ROTJ? I would have used the owner's name but I think he might prefer anonymity.

Author:  Sith-Smith [ Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:42 pm ]
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Totally agree it should be the "GS"

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