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Author:  Midnight Trooper [ Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:  ESB unfinished casting.

Hey guys. I mentioned this to one of you awhile back. Now the picture is out in a public venue so I'm reposting here.

I'm thinking it's a raw casting from the UK mould. Do you agree?
Interesting because this is not the helmet we see in other similar pictures of this scene is it?

Author:  No Humor Man [ Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ESB unfinished casting.

Interesting clear shot of this near unpainted cast. The other cast is painted and finished, and that one also has the neck extension.

Author:  banthapoodoo [ Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ESB unfinished casting.

Looks like a miniature to me, not 1:1 scale.

Author:  No Humor Man [ Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ESB unfinished casting.

banthapoodoo wrote:
Looks like a miniature to me, not 1:1 scale.

As it is in the same physical spot as the other painted Dagobah rolling helmet that's not possible. Also, they didn't have the capability to make such an accurate scaled replica back then. It's full scale and visible in the movie.

Attachment:
Dagobah-Rolling-Helmet-004.jpg

Author:  vadermania [ Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ESB unfinished casting.

I think it's a special effects helmet made for the shot where the helmet actually explodes.

Author:  lenasith [ Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ESB unfinished casting.

I agree , on this helmet , the dome is the same

Image

Author:  banthapoodoo [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ESB unfinished casting.

That dome flare wow. Looks like the DPCA. Which makes me wonder if this might have been made of vinyl... some material that could withstand an exploding facemask nearby and still be used in the next shot for continuity.

As for whether it originated from the UK mold, I can say with absolute certainty... I have no idea. :)

Author:  No Humor Man [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ESB unfinished casting.

banthapoodoo wrote:
That dome flare wow. Looks like the DPCA. Which makes me wonder if this might have been made of vinyl... some material that could withstand an exploding facemask nearby and still be used in the next shot for continuity.

They probably just used a mis-cast dome.

Author:  SithLord [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:23 pm ]
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Photoshopped...

Author:  Turrican [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:00 pm ]
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SithLord wrote:
Photoshopped...


mmhh... this also came up in my mind.

Author:  No Humor Man [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:07 pm ]
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This is a screen capture of the helmet in the movie.

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Vader17.png

Author:  No Humor Man [ Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ESB unfinished casting.

The screen capture face mask and the blown up face mask with the Luke head inside share the same irregular pattern on the neck, which the face mask in the first picture do not have. And neither the blown up face mask, nor the one in the movie sports a neck extension. The dome is the same...

Author:  SithLord [ Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:55 am ]
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Yes the dome is the identical dome but the mask is different in so many ways and how it is placed on the photo suggests to me strongly that it was photoshopped in. I could point out all the differences....how can you have something so different inside the same dome in the same scene?

Author:  craigjohn [ Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ESB unfinished casting.

Image

If that mask is photoshopped in, that's one helluva a good PS job. Perfect focus transitions, matched the lighting, same film grain. The focus fall off also tells me it's not photoshopped - seems too perfect, and it looks like a lens rendered the bokeh along the top and bottom edges of the neck. That's what I'm seeing...

Would the production team have thrown in a stunt mask as a stand in for a test throw or two to see how it lands so they could film it correctly? Why damage the screen used version prior to filming? Not hard to believe someone walked up an popped a photo of it sitting on the ground. Those movies are littered with behind the scenes stills.

Author:  Fatherless One [ Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ESB unfinished casting.

I love that face mask, while a rough cast the facial features are crisp and sharp, and there's the neck extension plain as day :thumbs

It's screaming TM to me.

The mesh in the upper mouth vent looks like an ANH pattern, a different mesh from the lower mouth opening.

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