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Author: | Too Much Garlic [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Finally have a finished SL ANH :D |
Nice looking helmet. Good to see you finally got one painted! |
Author: | Madrid Boba [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:59 pm ] |
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Congratulations !! Bravo !! |
Author: | RBJ [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:26 pm ] |
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Now that is a beautiful Vader helmet. Congrats. |
Author: | oujala [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Finally have a finished SL ANH :D |
Absolutely gorgeous. I've read so many threads around here but forgot that you had never painted one of your own. Nice! |
Author: | SithLord [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Finally have a finished SL ANH :D |
There has been some that have thought that the SL ANH doesn't have the original paint on its surface as seen on the original ANH helmet as in the Tantive IV scenes. A lot of the focus had been on discussion of the C-scar, and justifiably so. However, that is just one detail. What of, for example, Vader's left front cheek face? Is there detail there that indicates the original paint surface was preserved at the time Rick Baker molded the original mask? The answer is yes. There is a complex imperfection on the left front cheek surface that initially detectable by virtue of some black paint showing beneath (or on top of?) the gunmetal. One of the most identifying features of this imperfection is a ring-shaped detail. The comparison below shows a closeup of the original ANH check (left closeup image) and that imperfection along with the ring which shows up better if one reduces the intensity of the LUT somewhat and applies a bit of sharpening (center closeup image). That ring is also clearly on the SL ANH in exactly the same location as on the original (right closeup image). Interestingly, by the time of the Chorbis photoshoot, that detail is completely gone, as there was some touch-up paint work by then in specific areas. This is but one example indicating how early the mold had been taken off the original ANH mask by Rick Baker. |
Author: | Biker [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:17 am ] |
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A very interesting comparison. |
Author: | DynamicMenace [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Finally have a finished SL ANH :D |
wow. very interesting indeed. very cool. just love it when you point out all the fine details about the SL compared to the film used helmet. more proof to its validity. and i hope you dont mind Thomas. but i did a little research my self to see if i could locate this on the screen used helmet as well in some screen shots.. and low an behold i did indeed. hopefully you all will be able to see it. did the best i could with windows paint... |
Author: | Lambotour [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:33 pm ] |
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SithLord wrote: In my opinion of reading vader threads over the last 13 years and many by you, I have to say this illustration is probably the BEST one you have ever come up with. Clear and concise and not debatable as to what we are seeing. Very well done. |
Author: | SithLord [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Finally have a finished SL ANH :D |
Thanks I appreciate that....it isn't always easy to try to show details that small...but I try.... About the Chronicles....if someone can show me that detail on the chronicles ANH helmet I'd be very interested to see it. But keep in mind, the detail isn't just in relief (ie: how it stands out from the surface), there is black paint associated with both the ring and the imperfection below it. |
Author: | Too Much Garlic [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Finally have a finished SL ANH :D |
SithLord wrote: About the Chronicles....if someone can show me that detail on the chronicles ANH helmet I'd be very interested to see it. But keep in mind, the detail isn't just in relief (ie: how it stands out from the surface), there is black paint associated with both the ring and the imperfection below it. Yes... until it was touched up by Kermit - removing the black, but keeping surface detail - and later when it was repainted for the footprint ceremony and the Chronicles shoot. It is very simple deduction and everyone who's painted with metallic colors will know this. You can see the circular pattern in the exact spot you highlighted on the two Chronicles pictures I posted + if it was just paint and nothing on the surface, you wouldn't have it on your cast. Paint doesn't cover previous paint application formations or blemishes in the surface, if the covering layer is very thin, it does not annihilate or eradicate surface details, unless it is a very thick layer. And the black streaking can easily be covered, while keeping the surface detail of how it looked preserved. I really do not know how else to explain this. The detail is also on the Corbis pictures, so I advice you to re-examine those with more scrutiny - the issue with the Corbis and Chronicles shoots is that the helmet is photographed from so far away, compared to the screen helmet, the creaturefeaturekid picture you own and your helmet. But the detail is there. The black smudge isn't important, the surface detail is. And that surface detail remains all the way up through those various stages. Finding it doesn't prove when it was molded. Only the features that lack on the SL does. Not wanting to forget... cool find, btw! |
Author: | Lambotour [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Finally have a finished SL ANH :D |
Forgot to mention the paint job is very nice. It really captures the look of that Tantive helmet. |
Author: | Midnight Trooper [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Finally have a finished SL ANH :D |
Nice paintjob! So have people finally come round to both sides of the mouth being gunmetal then? On the front surface of the mouth triangle; are there some silver streaks where an errant brushstroke overshot the sides of the mouth? Or is that area just that rough? |
Author: | Too Much Garlic [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Finally have a finished SL ANH :D |
And regarding the circular artifact on the cheek claimed not being in the Corbis photos, I present this: It's from a higher resolution version of this one: |
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