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Author:  Too Much Garlic [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

They are really catering to the fans with info and pictures. NICE. :thumbsup

Author:  Darth_Finger [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

Love it :thumbsup I would still like to know what is up with the grey and black painted details. Not looking glossy. Did the hero not use gloss paint for those 2 colors? Looks more like a semi to flat look.

Author:  BGHUNTER [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

Nairod wrote:
BGHUNTER, isn't your avatar on RPF, a teaser pic of this molds???



Good eye :wink:
EFX has really out done them selfs with this, I hope there next offerings are on par with them , Id like to see all the TK helmets done,, IE an Khaki ANH/ ESB and an abs ROTJ

Author:  rebnah [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

Hello everyone i'm new to all this and a new collector.
I love this new EFX stormtrooper but what i want to know is?
Is it worth me trying to get this even though i already have a Gino V2 ANH Hero?

Author:  Darth Niob [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

I think the hero from eFX will be the best available hero trooper lid available .....so yes...to answer your question:)

Author:  StarWars Collector [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:45 pm ]
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A new collector... Starting off with a Gino ANH Hero... What's the world coming to... :lol

Anyway, welcome to The Den make yourself at home and have fun! :thumbsup

BTW: I fully agree with Darth Niob on the eFX Hero.

:cheers

Author:  rebnah [ Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

Thanks guys
This place is great!
I also have a Gino V2 stunt and a scooch cap/w bumpy? i'm sure i got that correct?
I turned it into a sand trooper though with the higher brow.
I also have the 19" sideshow trooper too.

Author:  Too Much Garlic [ Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

There is no contest with the eFX hero Legend Edition helmet. Any previous fan made heroes were made from stunt helmets. eFX wins as it is cast from molds made from the inside of a real screen used hero helmet.

Author:  jkno [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

rebnah wrote:
Thanks guys
This place is great!
I also have a Gino V2 stunt and a scooch cap/w bumpy? i'm sure i got that correct?
I turned it into a sand trooper though with the higher brow.
I also have the 19" sideshow trooper too.


I would recommend in getting the RS Prop Master (aka SiMan) Stunt lid as well. ;)

Author:  rebnah [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

I am thinking about it but someone told me the paint colours were slightly off?

Author:  Too Much Garlic [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

Those are an easy fix if that's an issue.

Author:  Darth_Finger [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

Looks like both this and the scout helmet are going to be made from fiberglass now.

from Gino on RS.

As you know, the only criteria for an EFX product to quality for Legend Edition status are that it must be primarily created by either :
1. directly molding a screen-used/production made original or...
2. utilizing original production molds from the LFL archives or ...
3. a combination of the two.


When it comes to finishing a Legend piece, prop accuracy will not always necessarily extend into areas that you cannot see from a display standpoint, such as the interiors of the pieces, (like for example under the dome or inside the face mask of the Vader helmet).

It also may not always apply to the original materials of the screen-used piece.
Every situation is unique and evaluated on a case by case basis.


Some of these aspects are mass-production prohibitive and some are just not practical when taking into consideration the product's durability, consistency from item to item, or any miscellaneous aspect that we feel would be counter productive to providing what we consider a quality collectible that would satisfy the greatest number of our customer's expectations.


We try to find the right balance of complete accuracy and what makes strategic sense all things considered (and there are a lot more things to consider in mass production vs when we are making a prop for ourselves out of our garage).


Our goal is to as much as practically possible, create the visual appearance of screen accuracy when viewing the item from the outside (ie when being displayed).


For those unaware, the original Scout Trooper helmets were vac formed in 6 pieces, fit together like a puzzle, and then painted white.
At this point in time, out plan is to make the Scout Trooper in fiberglass.
Reason being that several of the the Scout Trooper helmet pieces were created in vac formed halves that were glued together with scrap strips of ABS and hidden with body filler spread on top of the seams then sanded down to a flat finish, then painted. These seams were very fragile and would not hold up to general consumer handling over a period of time (you can even see the seam line broken though on the originals).
For the Scout Trooper molding masters, we had to form, assemble and finish a helmet in ABS just like the originals so that it could be molded for fiberglass production.
This way it would still have the proper look of an ABS formed helmet...but in fiberglass.
I can say first hand that creating the helmet in the same manner of the originals in ABS was EXTREMELY laborious and time consuming.
Upon making the master, it was immediately apparent there was a total lack of confidence in a factory performing this task with a high level of quality, with any sort of consistency, and in anything approaching a timely manner (ie time spent working on each unit).
Switching from ABS to fiberglass for this item was for certain the only way to go.

For the Hero Trooper helmet, we are in the process of evaluating what is achievable in a factory setting in terms of quality/consistency with making them in vac formed ABS.
If we find that we cannot guarantee consistent parts (ie, some being sharper/softer than others or trimmed/assembled differently than what we consider ideal) then we would opt for doing them in fiberglass.

At least that way, we could guarantee that each item would be representative of our original vision of how the product should look vs. some product turning out better than others.
It could end up being a quality control nightmare that we would like to avoid.

We realize that there is a small percentage of our customers who are the hard core prop guys (like myself ) who would be disappointed in a materials change, but there are also a larger percentage of those who would actually prefer a fiberglass version that still retains the complete look of the originals via being cast from original - Legend.

Author:  Turrican [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:54 pm ]
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Hope they realy will not made them in fiberglas.
That would be realy sad.:grumpy
Or someone sell me that prototype :lol .I'm sure Gino has a ABS hero from that mould.

Were those efx X-Wing helmets also made out of vac-formed ABS?
Heard they had problems while the production with them and many arrived damaged to the buyers.

Author:  Too Much Garlic [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

Didn't that just kill the point of doing 2 separate versions - the expensive Legend and the cheaper Limited done in non-accurate material? Or was the plan always only to do one version? Just seems like a watering down of the Legend concept, regardless of how understandable the reasons for the switch to inaccurate material and fabrication used may or ay not be.

Author:  rebnah [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: eFX ANH Hero Stormtrooper Legend Edition

I think I will stick with my v2s gino hero and stunt, just sold a fiberglass one as its not screen accurate do don't want another.

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