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Author: | belloq [ Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project |
Looks great. With my limited 3D modelling experience (Maya, ten years ago,) I would have pulled my hair out and quit a while back. You have serious patience. Can't wait to see the prints. |
Author: | belloq [ Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project |
Very cool. Nice work. |
Author: | dcarty [ Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project |
Those look freaking fantastic Carsten/Mike! Hopefully, we'll be seeing this project coming to a successful conclusion soon (I have parts waiting, lol) |
Author: | Too Much Garlic [ Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project |
Thanks. Studying an accurately shaped chest armor is really an eye opener. It's pretty spectacular. |
Author: | belloq [ Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project |
Was the chest armor the DVV elstree set, or something else? |
Author: | Too Much Garlic [ Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project |
The helmet and chest armor belong to Darthjones, a former employee at ILM and a long time member of the community, and I can't thank him enough for being willing to get his pieces scanned. |
Author: | belloq [ Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project |
No Humor Man wrote: The helmet and chest armor belong to Darthjones, a former employee at ILM and a long time member of the community, and I can't thank him enough for being willing to get his pieces scanned. Awesome! You probably can't get better than that. Do you have any rough dimensions you can share like total height and width of chest and bells, or any opinion as to whether the DVV elstree casting was different in size compared to DJ's casting? Just wondering if the castings were from significantly different generations down from the original. |
Author: | darthjones [ Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project |
Hello! I would do a rough measure of the chest armor here if it was not stored off site (for now). But, in brief, it has been my overall observation that chest bells have stayed the same pretty much over time (like with GH armor all the way to this "darthjones" armor). BUT - the difference is that subsequent armors are more "open." Imagine that, from the side, the armor is a "C" (viewed from the side, right?)... Now, Brian Muir told me in person that the shoulder bells line up perfectly with the original sculpt. The bells on the "darthjones" armor line up with the chest armor perfectly and I do know that it was an early piece because, like an idiot (in the 1980's), I cleaned up some of the tell-tale details you see in ANH and promotional armor but not in all of ESB. Now I'm only half stupid. So I'd say this is pretty much dead-on in between ANH/ESB armor. Now, why has Vader chest armor expanded over time? I have just guesses. Even the ILM/ LFL armor is a bit wacky now up there. 1. Fiberglass will warp and "recover" if it is pulled from a mold too quickly. If it is still curing it will change shape. And subsequent copies will be the same. There is no doubt in my mind that this is a factor (having worked with fiberglass). 2. Somewhere I read that Dave Prowse bulked up a bit for Vader after ANH. If he needed the armor bigger at any point they could have sized it somewhat larger by casting it and "guiding" its warpage before it fully cured. This is a reach but it is possible. I have had this armor right next to GH armor and they are exactly the same but for the GH being more ROTJ in its front-to-back space. One COULD easily make a much better ANH armor shape from GH by using the left shoulder bell as a guide. NOTE - it is the left shoulder bell that is used on both sides for Vader. The right one was never used says Muir but it did line up perfectly too. Sorry if my typing is goofy here. In a rush. Cleaning my fridge! |
Author: | belloq [ Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project |
Thanks for he info. Eventually I would love to know the rough dimensions- when you have it in hand again. The photos of original lineage armor like the DVV look undersized to me but perhaps the originals appeared small too (compared to what one would assume Prowse's large proportions might be.) |
Author: | darthjones [ Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project |
I just looked up DVV armor but the photos are hard to figure out. At a glance it looks great! And it looks the same size as this piece here. If you can find a photo of its left side with the bell attached or close we could maybe tell something. But the DVV looks great! belloq wrote: Thanks for he info. Eventually I would love to know the rough dimensions- when you have it in hand again. The photos of original lineage armor like the DVV look undersized to me but perhaps the originals appeared small too (compared to what one would assume Prowse's large proportions might be.)
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Author: | belloq [ Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 1:6 Darth Vader 3D Laser Scan & Print Project |
Thanks for confirming. Sorry to derail thread. A final point on chest armor: The DVV chest only is about 23" along top width. Don Post/Eller photos against brick wall looks to be about 21" wide but that is a really rough estimate based on standard brick dimensions and perspective. So I guess the DVV and probably yours are not undersized. Sorry again. |
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