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Author:  Darth Noronha [ Thu May 01, 2008 1:44 pm ]
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This thread is amazing! All this info is making my head explode. I think i have to upgrade to a bigger hard drive.

I have one question (hope this wasnt already asked?! or discussed else where)

Do you know where the mask/helmet went after it left your hands? Did it go directly for painting? or did it take another path?

Again... Thank you for making the face of the best villain of all time! :bow

Author:  Too Much Garlic [ Thu May 01, 2008 10:58 pm ]
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It's funny... I have so many questions... but I can't remember squat of them! :sad5 :cry

Author:  vaderman [ Thu May 01, 2008 11:10 pm ]
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Darth Noronha wrote:
This thread is amazing! All this info is making my head explode. I think i have to upgrade to a bigger hard drive.

I have one question (hope this wasnt already asked?! or discussed else where)

Do you know where the mask/helmet went after it left your hands? Did it go directly for painting? or did it take another path?

Again... Thank you for making the face of the best villain of all time! :bow


I'm glad you're enjoying the information on the thread. :)

When I finished the Darth Vader sculpt in clay it was then passed onto plasterers in the small plaster shop set up in the Art department (which had been set up just to mould and cast the characters).

Brian

Author:  SithLord [ Fri May 02, 2008 5:09 pm ]
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Brian I recall you mentioning that you were actually onset when Vader was on the Death Star, which is amazing and I'm sure will generate a lot more questions. I was curious if you were able to see the screen helmet up close when Dave Prowse was being dressed in the costume onset? I ask this because sometimes Dave would be in costume but without the helmet during rehersals of a scene. Did you get a look inside the mask?

Author:  vaderman [ Sat May 03, 2008 5:04 pm ]
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Thomas

With any filming on set you have to be discreet when watching and therefore always at a distance trying not to be noticed. So I would not have got close enough to see inside the mask.

The standbys are the only tradesmen that are on set legitimately just in case something has to be changed.

Brian

Author:  Too Much Garlic [ Fri May 16, 2008 1:56 pm ]
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YES... I finally remembered one of my questions!!! :lol However, it's about the chest armor and not the helmet... so, I should probably start a new thread about it, unless it's okay to ask it here?

Author:  vaderman [ Fri May 16, 2008 11:18 pm ]
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Hi NHM,

Any question is fine on this thread - fire away

Brian

Author:  CSMacLaren [ Fri May 16, 2008 11:29 pm ]
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Okay... uh... I have a question. :toothy

Brian,

You shared a picture somewhere here on the Den a short while back that you had a life cast of Dave Prowse to sculpt Vader on.

Was the helmet and the chest armor (and shoulders) sculpted on the same life cast or separate lifecasts?

Depending on your answer, I have some follow-up questions.

Thank you, sir!!

Author:  Too Much Garlic [ Fri May 16, 2008 11:31 pm ]
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Cool. Thanks for that.

Well, the question is regarding the U-shaped indentations on the two bars on either side of the raised center. In some A New Hope photos it appears as if there are faint lines continuing from the clear U and trailing up the armor.

I did a simple mock-up of what I'm thinking, the red lines exaggerating the faint lines that appears to be present, or could possibly just be caused by the way the armor was painted, though thought I'd ask.

Image

Jesper, JRX, was the one who I believe first suggested the lines of the U shape may extend further up the armor, though, only on the ANH.

Author:  vaderman [ Fri May 16, 2008 11:57 pm ]
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CSMacLaren wrote:
Okay... uh... I have a question. :toothy

Brian,

You shared a picture somewhere here on the Den a short while back that you had a life cast of Dave Prowse to sculpt Vader on.

Was the helmet and the chest armor (and shoulders) sculpted on the same life cast or separate lifecasts?

Depending on your answer, I have some follow-up questions.

Thank you, sir!!


Hi Mac,

I had a head and chest cast in plaster to sculpt the mask and helmet and a seperate full body cast to the neck for the armour and shin guards.

Brian

Author:  CSMacLaren [ Fri May 16, 2008 11:59 pm ]
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Post withheld for the time being.

Author:  vaderman [ Sat May 17, 2008 12:02 am ]
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NoHumorMan wrote:
Cool. Thanks for that.

Well, the question is regarding the U-shaped indentations on the two bars on either side of the raised center. In some A New Hope photos it appears as if there are faint lines continuing from the clear U and trailing up the armor.

I did a simple mock-up of what I'm thinking, the red lines exaggerating the faint lines that appears to be present, or could possibly just be caused by the way the armor was painted, though thought I'd ask.

Image

Jesper, JRX, was the one who I believe first suggested the lines of the U shape may extend further up the armor, though, only on the ANH.



Hi NHM,

The lines would have extended through to the top - I think the lighting is hiding the lines to a certain extent. As you get to the top you can see the line reappear where the lighting isn't quite so strong.

Brian

Having looked again the lines do not extend to the top

Author:  CSMacLaren [ Sat May 17, 2008 12:02 am ]
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vaderman wrote:
Hi Mac,

I had a head and chest cast in plaster to sculpt the mask and helmet and a seperate full body cast to the neck for the armour and shin guards.

Brian



Wonderful, thank you, sir!

So as the mask and the armor were sculpted separately, was the intent for the neck of the mask to be able to cover the armor's neck opening completely or just partially (front)?

There's some follow-up questions to that too, depending on the response!

:wink:

Author:  Too Much Garlic [ Sat May 17, 2008 12:05 am ]
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vaderman wrote:
Hi NHM,

The lines would have extended through to the top - I think the lighting is hiding the lines to a certain extent. As you get to the top you can see the line reappear where the lighting isn't quite so strong.

Brian

WOW... that's cool. Thanks for that! :cheers

Author:  Too Much Garlic [ Sat May 17, 2008 12:06 am ]
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CSMacLaren wrote:
There's some follow-up questions to that too, depending on the response!

LOL... just ask the questions, silly man... instead of jacking up your post count! :blah

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