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 Post subject: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:41 pm 
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I'm kind of a stickler for this sort of thing and i'd like "best guess!" answers from some of the Vader gurus on this board.

Were the Vader ANH lenses red, smoked, dark amber or none of the aforementioned? From what i gather, the lenses LOOK red on the dvd due to dodgy color correction software( we all know the travesty of the pink, green, white insipid saber colors!!!) interpreting the face color behind the lense and over-enhancing it.....is this true?

I've done an ANH lid with red lenses, it looked OK, but i didn't quite buy it....

What do you guys think?

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:54 pm 
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Amber lenses, courtesy of darthvaderv from that long lens thread on the RPF.

I have a personal favorite in the smoked grey, but that's just me.

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:27 pm 
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I like the smoke lenses too. Probably because when I was a kid thats just what I figured they were.

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:36 pm 
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Thanks, i've got a pair of smoked lenses and i think i'll stick with them. I too have always thought of Vader as having smoked lenses ever since i saw it in '77!

I guess you have to go with what you feel looks "right".

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:01 am 
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"amber" lenses because they were brown but so thin when you looked at them by themselves they looked kinda yellow.

Like a thin sample of burnt umber.

I think they started with brown but got amber out of it.


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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
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Here is a link to an old thread on this subject: http://thepropden.aokforums.com/return-to-the-topic-last-visited-vt78.html?start=0

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
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Man, that is an old thread :lol

I think the definition of amber comes in many forms whether that be an iced tea, light yellow-ish tint, brown-bronze. With the archive Vader's and other body of evidence amber would still be the choice of ANH even though they were darkened for Empire/Jedi, which still come under the same category even though they are not as dark as what many believe.

Here is that rather long RPF thread.

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=41668

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
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That's really helpfull!
Thanks for the links, i should try searching in future, shouldn't i? :toothy

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:37 pm 
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clancampbell wrote:
That's really helpfull!
Thanks for the links, i should try searching in future, shouldn't i? :toothy

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It all takes time and some of these threads are buried pretty well so I can understand people looking for the short answer. This is what Prowse said in his book, so with this and the Elstree facemask on the carpet it throws people off but the color was amber,backed up by reference.

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David Prowse's book - From the forces mouth.

Q. How well could you see out of the mask?

A. Originally the mask had grey lenses in the eye pieces which made vision quite good but, as the film progressed, the cameraman kept saying that he could see myeyes flickering inside the mask. Amber lenses replaced the grey ones but one could still see eye movements. A darker amber lens (which actually made seeing very difficult) was eventually inserted and this cured the problem.

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
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I might try a coat of clear orange over the smoked lenses....that should get a kind of dark amber, no? I've a feeling it might go a bit brown....

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
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I've seen people go with orange amber lenses, and the look is just not there.

I've also seen people go with red lenses, and it also doesn't look right.

Best thing to do is paint it how you feel reflects what you saw on the big screen. :thumbsup

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
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I've seen people go with orange amber lenses, and the look is just not there.

I've also seen people go with red lenses, and it also doesn't look right.

Best thing to do is paint it how you feel reflects what you saw on the big screen. :thumbsup


But if you do that it apparently wont look quite right...right? :rolleyes :lol

One thing to note is when people say "amber" many times they are thinking anywhere from a smoked yellow through root beer in color.

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
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I'll test it on the overlap section of the lenses, and if it looks mince, i'll clean it off. The last ANH i did had red lenses and, as one of the members here put it, it did look a bit like a cylon!

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
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Here is a red lens look from my first-ever ANH (which I end up returning to the vendor within a very short time frame). The vendor used a red acrylic, and then used a bright steel wire mesh behind it, which flash photography would illuminate.

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The lenses were too flat. My initial lens mod was to use automotive window film. This created a bit of a ROTS look.

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Then I found some sunglasses large enough, and the rest was history.

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 Post subject: Re: OK, What's the Concensus on the color of ANH Lenses?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:23 am 
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Yeah, the red lenses look pretty terrible. Here's a pic of my first Sgt.Fang helmet which i sold almost immediately....yes, i know, i took the pic too close!!! I installed red lenses, but no mesh.

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