illbethere1 wrote:
Quite frankly after a second look, I believe thats the best genuine real deal ROTJ helmet I ever seen. Both pieces are exquisitely true to onscreen especially the dome
darthjones wrote:
Honestly it looks at a glance like the "No, I am your father" helmet. And it looks clean enough to me to be a hero helmet having seen a couple in person - I'm talking about the paint, finish, etc.Thoughts on the "father" helmet? Look at neck, widows peak, etc.
Sorry, It is definitely not an ROTJ. It is definitely an ESB. If you really look at that center strip on the dome, it isn't truly the shape of the ROTJ center strip. There is definitely a dimple there. And it is painted
like an ESB. But it is not the '..father..' helmet either.
Compare it to an actual ROTJ. This is the facemask from the gantry scene where Luke surrenders.
Now, with a little magic, we lower the dome and voilà, instant ESB. Gee, kinda looks like the helmet below, it's even got the right tusks. But it's not
this helmet.
There is something that has happened to most of the ESB helmets, whether they were screen used or tour helmets, they have been made to look like ROTJs.Everybody thinks this helmet below (Magic of the Myth, MOTM) is an ROTJ (hero even)...
But it is not. It is an ESB 'action' helmet. Worn when Dave (or maybe Bob) had to do a lot of walking or needed to see his feet well. Just like the helmet above it is also an action.
These are not heroes. They have recessed thinner chin grills that are easier to see through them the heroes.
And sometimes they even have the wrong tusks. Hmmmm. The one above was
used when Dave had to walk through the rebel base ice corridors. It was also used in the scene where Vader says,' bring my shuttle', where he is doing a lot of walking and even walks down steps.
Only turn back the hands of time and it looked a little bit more like this. However, I did this photo restoration a few months back and actually as it turns out the dome does sit a little high on this particular helmet.
This helmet, is the 'no, I am your father'. Take a look at the picture on the right, then check out the pictures below. Note how the black paint follows up at an angle on the side of the nose, instead of changing direction as it does on the other helmets. In the book, the making of ESB. There is a picture of Vader, looking upward when he is on the plarform. You can see that the helmet has a recessed grille.
But all this aside,This helmet really looks cool. It is painted really well, and clearly appears to be older, despite its near immaculate condition.
However, the molded detail on this helmet is not good enough to be even an action helmet, much less a hero. It's got some serious problems.
Problems you will not find in any ESB screen cap. Or ROTJ for that matter.
Why does it have intentional damage? Somebody sat and hit this helmet again and again down the top of the nose. And when they got to the front of it,
they then started chopping around the edge of the nose at equally spaced intervals. This is intentional, not accidental. Not regular wear and tear. Real deal
helmets, were working helmets and are therefore were usually somewhat beat up. But the type of damage they have does not look like what's on this helmet.
As nice as this helmet is, it is a tour helmet at best. Is clearly meant to be an ESB, and does look like an action, but if it is, it never got used as I can't screen
match it to any shot.