CSMacLaren wrote:
NoHumorMan wrote:
Well, he got to defame a few people's integrity, call everyone liars, walk away without repercussions + score the conversation about the helmet over to his forum. Guess that teaches us all a valuable lesson. Be a bully and you get what you want.
When someone is bullied, they are being devalued as a human being. People who endorse the bully are essentially are no better than the bully, so I find there is little in their opinion or person to esteem any longer.
This is not the first time I've seen GINO take an offensive attack posture with people, and cyberbullying people to the point the burden of proof is on the accused. I've seen him "demand" pictures from people by simply waiving the "it may be a recast of my box" card. Even when his accusations are proven to be baseless, he never apologizes. I'm left to wonder if GINO merely hoped the weight of his accusations would be sufficient to stonewall or slow the success of another fan's handmade efforts.
I find it appalling and repugnant that people would say "But don't look at GINO's past. Look at GINO's passion." I'm also seeing people say that GINO's "concern" for a prop being claimed to be an original should be examined despite GINO's interesting and colorful past - to the point JoeR not only has to defend himself against character defamation by someone who lost out on a deal, but that the only way for JoeRto exonerate himself is to cough up photos and contribute them to GINO's private photo collection. What kind of passion is being praised here? A passion to remain King of the Vader Hill by maligning and removing all perceived competition and controlling all information?
And being that his mannequins look nice, does that give him the authority to leverage the public to help him harass and intimidate someone into submission? Yeah... I see his statues are so accurate that when kind Den people point out inaccuracies, he plagiarizes their ideas, silently works them into his photos, and you never see him credit people or ever acknowledge that his setup needed changing - yet the photographic evidence is right there. Then he maligns the Den and Den members, and people credit him for a look that was achieved through the contributions of others.
Thus, to me, people who hold GINO in high regard despite his antics really deserve him. Those who endorse this bully need to reassess their own priorities.
A note to the community: do not feed a bully's ego to where you let him think he has power and authority over you, otherwise he wins.
Mac, his little tirade against Joe fell just as flat as Thomas' did against GINO. As I said, both arguments were utterly pointless. I give GINO the benefit of the doubt at times, but even I can admit when the guy is wrong, and I told him as much regarding this one. I haven't seen the posts here where members have pointed out his "inaccuracies". Frankly, it is irrelevant to me.
As far as "endorsing the bully" goes, people here do the saaaaame thing. Yes, I like GINO, but in all fairness, I don't know him from Adam. Same goes for all of you, none of us know each other, for the most part. We ALL have our opinions, and they are all worth exactly the time it took you to type them out...mine included.
Now, Joe said something on GINO's board that really struck me. He basically said he has nothing to prove to anyone. I direct this to you, Joe; If you have nothing to prove to anyone, why post about your piece in the first place? I still think it is what it is...a cool piece of film history, but you chose to share it with us in the SW Prop community, so it says to me that you are looking for approval. I've already said I am envious. It's a hell of a thing to find TWO pieces from ILM. Let's not sugar coat it though, we are looking for approval when we post pics of our items. If not approval, then at least mutterings of jealousy.