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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:19 pm 
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I do believe that most of the Tantive shots suffer from the camera being too close to the actor - just look at how little space is in that corridor, it's pretty narrow.

Also, Mac: the JB V1 is also from the GH style family of helmets.

Darth Karo: the mystery dome on that CT is one of the better ESB style domes I have ever seen. :thumbsup


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Thanks for the compliments NHM. :wink: Ok I decided to have some fun with the helmets, so I switched a couple around to see how they would look. Also, I took some requested shots.

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Fiberdyne, SPFX, JB
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Wow, thanks! So I wasn't wrong: the JB *IS* wider.


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sweet pics!! you must have given that rubies a serious overhaul... it looks very respectable!!

amazing collection... and nice photography skills :cool:


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MisserCraig wrote:
sweet pics!! you must have given that rubies a serious overhaul... it looks very respectable!!

amazing collection... and nice photography skills :cool:



That's based on the Rubie's Fiberglass Limited Edition, not the plastic Rubie's Supreme Vader -- they are two different designs altogether.


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MisserCraig wrote:
sweet pics!! you must have given that rubies a serious overhaul... it looks very respectable!!

amazing collection... and nice photography skills :cool:


Thank you for the compliments. Believe me it's more the camera than my skill at photography, but I do like taking pictures. :wink: Also Mac is correct, that's the Rubies FG limited edition.


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Interesting to see how the eyes differ so greatly between the GH style helmets and the so-called original cast helmets. They are worlds apart, shape-wise.

Very lovely pictures! Shows all the helmets at their best! :thumbsup


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Darth Karo wrote:
MisserCraig wrote:
sweet pics!! you must have given that rubies a serious overhaul... it looks very respectable!!

amazing collection... and nice photography skills :cool:


Thank you for the compliments. Believe me it's more the camera than my skill at photography, but I do like taking pictures. :wink: Also Mac is correct, that's the Rubies FG limited edition.


ha! i knew something wasn't adding up :toothy


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The eyes on the GH are just sanded down from the original which has more edge to it...that makes the eye shape appear different. Very nice collection! I agree with Mac about the SPFX. The comparison with the JB and Fyberdyne bear out what I've found by measuring faceplates that the SPFX is the smallest out there or at least in the same neighborhood as 20th C/JB V2. It is definitely too narrow in the neck. Not even the original ESBs were that narrow in the neck. Since the SPFX dome is a GH that also explains why it looks smaller in relation to the dome...which it is. Look at any set photo taken of Vader from ANH...the faceplate is much larger in relation to the dome than an SPFX.


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The eyes on the GH are just sanded down from the original which has more edge to it...that makes the eye shape appear different. Very nice collection! I agree with Mac about the SPFX. The comparison with the JB and Fyberdyne bear out what I've found by measuring faceplates that the SPFX is the smallest out there or at least in the same neighborhood as 20th C/JB V2. It is definitely too narrow in the neck. Not even the original ESBs were that narrow in the neck. Since the SPFX dome is a GH that also explains why it looks smaller in relation to the dome...which it is. Look at any set photo taken of Vader from ANH...the faceplate is much larger in relation to the dome than an SPFX.


What are you refering to when you say "....the original which has more edge to it..."? Are we talking about the bottom outer end points of the eyes?


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As I said on the 1st page nice collection and the photography is very good highlighting these helmets as others have said.

I don't want to get into this whole debate but I think the newer SPFX's have improved on the neck width. You look to have an older SPFX going by the paint job is that correct? , my neck seems a bit wider on my ANH version than whats shown here I may be incorrect as it could be the way mine is painted giving that illusion.

Although this has all been documented before it's always interesting :cool: .


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darthvaderv wrote:
As I said on the 1st page nice collection and the photography is very good highlighting these helmets as others have said.

I don't want to get into this whole debate but I think the newer SPFX's have improved on the neck width. You look to have an older SPFX going by the paint job is that correct? , my neck seems a bit wider on my ANH version than whats shown here I may be incorrect as it could be the way mine is painted giving that illusion.

Although this has all been documented before it's always interesting :cool: .


Hey DV, yes you are correct. I've had this for about 3 1/2 years now, so it's much different than what SPFX offers now. I actually like his newer style as opposed to mine.


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Yes the newer SPFXs were "corrected" on the neck, among other things...and look quite a bit better than the earlier versions.

If you look at a 20th C faceplate, the edges of the eyes end in a flat surface...it's like the edge of your eyelid, let's say, for reference....on the GH those edges are smoothed out and rounded and flatter towards the surface of the face/forehead...just as they would be if they were sanded down a bit. Sinice those edges go outward circumferentially from the center of the eye, sanding them down would make the eyes appear smaller because it's the edge of the eye that gives the impression of size in relation to the whole face.


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Yes the newer SPFXs were "corrected" on the neck, among other things...and look quite a bit better than the earlier versions.

If you look at a 20th C faceplate, the edges of the eyes end in a flat surface...it's like the edge of your eyelid, let's say, for reference....on the GH those edges are smoothed out and rounded and flatter towards the surface of the face/forehead...just as they would be if they were sanded down a bit. Sinice those edges go outward circumferentially from the center of the eye, sanding them down would make the eyes appear smaller because it's the edge of the eye that gives the impression of size in relation to the whole face.

No no no... I'm not saying that... I'm talking about the whole shape of the eyes. I really don't know how to explain this and it really doesn't get picked up very well in photos, though some show it more clearly than others.

The GH style eyes, however way you put it, from a visual and sculptural standpoint are very different in shape in the face than the "original cast" helmets I have seen. I really wish I could show it, 'cause I don't think I'm explaining clearly what I see, so you guys can be able to see what I see, so we can get a better discussion going, whether you see what I see or not. I'm not asking anyone to agree with me... I just hate that I can't show what I see of the features on the two styles of helmets being different.

I'll try to see if I can find some pictures that clearly show this... oh... and I still owe you that shot of my three domes side by side... sorry I haven't gotten that done by now. Will do that as soon as I've gotten them all primed, so that the color difference doesn't interefere.


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I think what NHM is trying to show is the following:
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If you notice the curvature of the (vader's) right eye, the shape is different than the original. Also the following shot even though at a different angle with DJs faceplate illustrates the same thing. The GH eyes, in general, have a pointy, somewhat pinched look to them. This is also evident in the nose at times.
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I believe this is what NHM is trying to indicate. Correct me if I'm wrong NHM.


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