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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:42 pm 
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Turrican wrote:
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Recasters such as John Boero (JB, Canada) and Phil Snavely (SPFX/Anarchy Designs) led to these agreements being drafted, also one ex owner who sold his rare helmet/mask directly to JB.
These things make owners nervous, why spend "big bucks" buying these "rare" casts when you can buy a copy for half the amount?

Unfortunately there are some people who will buy these knock offs.



Jup.. and the same guys who bought the Steegmüller TM recasts, are now buying the GS helmet. :rolleyes

As the TM agreement seems to be repealed now, so happy sharing with those as well.
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Has it been proven that Steegmueller produced and sold recasts of the TM? If so, I would very much appreciate if you could supply me with some information via PM or E-Mail.

The TM buyers agreement is still in place, only the point regarding sharing pictures of unpainted castings or the original has been amended.


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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:07 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:10 pm 
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Fatherless One wrote:
These things make owners nervous, why spend "big bucks" buying these "rare" casts when you can buy a copy for half the amount?

Alan.


For an honest answer from a TM owner: because there are those in this hobby who believe having the privilege of owning one of these legit rare authentic casts still matters regardless of recasters.

If SPFX adds a copy of the TM ANH c-scar to his recast EFX ANH helmet and sells the RAW recasts for $300 - and being that a well detailed image of the TM C-Scar is already out there for anyone to find and reference, so technically he could do it any time he wants - it doesn't affect me one bit.

I know what I have on my shelf. I know the real lineage and history behind the cast. The TMs are still worth every penny I paid to have these in my collection.


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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:19 pm 
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craigjohn wrote:
Fatherless One wrote:
These things make owners nervous, why spend "big bucks" buying these "rare" casts when you can buy a copy for half the amount?

Alan.
I know what I have on my shelf. I know the real lineage and history behind the cast. The TMs are still worth every penny I paid to have these in my collection.


I feel the same as you.

But there are some out there who don't.


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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:22 pm 
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Has it been proven that Steegmueller produced and sold recasts of the TM? If so, I would very much appreciate if you could supply me with some information via PM or E-Mail.

The TM buyers agreement is still in place, only the point regarding sharing pictures of unpainted castings or the original has been amended.


So by Jorg - is this the Jorg people are talking about who recast the TM?

https://www.facebook.com/jorg.steegmuller?fref=ts

Considering I can't imaging there are too many Jorg Steegmuller's in the world, I have to believe "yes".


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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:32 pm 
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Fatherless One wrote:
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Fatherless One wrote:
These things make owners nervous, why spend "big bucks" buying these "rare" casts when you can buy a copy for half the amount?

Alan.
I know what I have on my shelf. I know the real lineage and history behind the cast. The TMs are still worth every penny I paid to have these in my collection.


I feel the same as you.

But there are some out there who don't.



I get that - I can only speak for myself. :thumbsup


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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:24 pm 
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craigjohn wrote:
vadermania wrote:
Has it been proven that Steegmueller produced and sold recasts of the TM? If so, I would very much appreciate if you could supply me with some information via PM or E-Mail.

The TM buyers agreement is still in place, only the point regarding sharing pictures of unpainted castings or the original has been amended.


So by Jorg - is this the Jorg people are talking about who recast the TM?

https://www.facebook.com/jorg.steegmuller?fref=ts

Considering I can't imaging there are too many Jorg Steegmuller's in the world, I have to believe "yes".


I find it very disturbing that people are blackmailed here coram publico without any evidence. Please show us proof.


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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:00 pm 
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Strider wrote:
craigjohn wrote:
vadermania wrote:
Has it been proven that Steegmueller produced and sold recasts of the TM? If so, I would very much appreciate if you could supply me with some information via PM or E-Mail.

The TM buyers agreement is still in place, only the point regarding sharing pictures of unpainted castings or the original has been amended.


So by Jorg - is this the Jorg people are talking about who recast the TM?

https://www.facebook.com/jorg.steegmuller?fref=ts

Considering I can't imaging there are too many Jorg Steegmuller's in the world, I have to believe "yes".


I find it very disturbing that people are blackmailed here coram publico without any evidence. Please show us proof.



Thomas is asking for proof if anyone has it.


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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:00 pm 
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I don't think this thread is the place to be discussing who recast the TM.


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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:11 pm 
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sskunky wrote:
I don't think this thread is the place to be discussing who recast the TM.


Agreed, back on the incredible GS topic.


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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:33 pm 
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Without a doubt. Since it's hashed out, maybe the admins can pull the discussion and make a new thread, or tack it onto the current thread.

...and yeah. So when are we going to see any new updates on the finished GS ROTJ helmet progress? :)


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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:13 am 
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Sure, we can split the topic. I'll have to see where the best cut point is in the thread. But I'm thinking it's all the way back from when the comparisons with the TM started. Seems more appropriate to have comparisons with other helmets in a separate thread. Mark, let me know where you want it cut, so this stays focused on the GS.


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sskunky wrote:
I don't think this thread is the place to be discussing who recast the TM.


Posts removed....sorry for being off topic mate.
Lets discuss this great lid instead off


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 Post subject: Re: The GS ROTJ Vader helmet owned by original crew member
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:50 am 
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I am happy to see comparisons with the TM and any other authentic casting against the GS. That's good reading. I just felt as soon as this turned into a witch hunt on who recast the TM it was time to get back on topic. Happy with everything else said, compared and pictured. :toothy


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