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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:52 pm 
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BTW isn't that a RotJ Boba in the background?



No, it's the pre-pro.


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Absolutely. I've always said the anh dome was sprayed and not brush painted.



Can you then explain these front-to-back brush lines on the bottom photo?

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I don't believe they are brush lines.


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GINO wrote:
No, it's the pre-pro.


Thanks.


Is it me or are we going round in circles....? I haven't seen definitive proof either way.

Besides that, the ANH dome paint finish is somewhat OT for this thread.

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It's not irrelevent.
It is being used to illustrate that the anh dome can appear to be just as shiny, glossy, reflective, etc.. as the esb dome, and we all agree the anh dome was not clearcoated.

But yes, we are going in circles. I believe that certain people are never going to (publicly) change their stance in regards to this issue out of their own pride.


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GINO wrote:
It is being used to illustrate that the anh dome can appear to be just as shiny, glossy, reflective, etc.. as the esb dome, and we all agree the anh dome was not clearcoated.

It can, but it doesn't hold consistency of the shine from picture to picture from scene to scene, etc.

Clear coat or buffing both have a very specific look to it in terms of consistency. It looks shiny in ways and situations and circumstances that gloss black alone simply just can't match.

You can always spot something that's just painted gloss by the way the lighting reacts and acts on the surface...

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Clear coat or buffing both have a very specific look to it in terms of consistency. It looks shiny in ways and situations and circumstances that gloss black alone simply just can't match.


I very much disagree.

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You can always spot something that's just painted gloss by the way the lighting reacts and acts on the surface...


I do agree with this. But ONLY when viewed in person, but NOT in photographs.


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GINO wrote:
It's not irrelevent.
It is being used to illustrate that the anh dome can appear to be just as shiny, glossy, reflective, etc.. as the esb dome, and we all agree the anh dome was not clearcoated.


Okay, that's fine with me. Please continue

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StarWars Collector wrote:
It only proves that the dome as seen in this tour pic was sprayed.

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BTW isn't that a RotJ Boba in the background?


SWC, as Gino stated it is a pre-pro Fett. This pic was taken around Sept/78.


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SWC, as Gino stated it is a pre-pro Fett. This pic was taken around Sept/78.


Thanks for the additional info, DK. :thumbsup

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GINO wrote:
I don't believe they are brush lines.

I would love to hear your thoughts on what those lines could possibly be.

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Alrighty, Mike (vadermonkey) has so kindly sent me HQ photo's of the Hero
Helmet we've all been using as an indicator to whether or not Vaders Helmet
was Clear Coated.. I personally have been out of the paint Buis for a while,
but My brother is still in it painting Aircrafts, but like Me he's painted it all..

We can all agree that the Hero Helmet had a combination of Fiberglass and,
tinted plastic on the cheek, and neck area for better visibility.. After looking
over the photo's My Brother and I both agree that there would have been
a significant differnce in sheen between the painted area's and the tinted
plastic on the Facemask.. We also both agree that Base Coat/ Clear Coat was
not used...

What We do think, is that Clear Lacquer was sprayed over the whole Face
and Dome to better even out the look and sheen of the Fiberglass to the
Plastic area's
and We all know Clear Lacquer was and had been available for many, many years..
anyone who has seen an old Guitar in person, has seen how Clear Lacquer
starts to wear over the years.. The finish gets thin in area's, the finish starts
to Yellow, and it also starts to check (crack).. These are all things very evident in the photo's

With everything We've seen from the photos the only conclusion we could come up with
was that this particular Helmet was done using Clear Lacquer and possibly only this Helmet..

I've always remained neutral in this debate, but I personally believed that
the Helmets were done using Enamel, untill of course these pics were sent
to Me.. I guess I'll have to consider My source was wrong or the other Helmet
were done differently.. Who the Hell knows!! lol :)


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Doug I just want to address that you labelled the pics I sent you as 'hero' rather than 'stunt'.....just want to clarify to avoid confusion. :wink:

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I'm confused. In the modeling community clear coat and clear lacquer is used arbitrarily to describe a clear top coat in either mat, satin or gloss to seal the paint. What's the difference between clear coat and clear lacquer? From what I understand they are both used as a top coat.

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