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 Post subject: Re: ESB and RotJ Vader helmet's -what do we know?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:12 pm 
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Sensational pics, do you have any close ups of the "undercut lines" of vaders right eye / cheek bone area, keen to see how the markings of the raw casting is showing thru.
Also vaders right cheek, any remnant signs of the c scar under the paint?
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 Post subject: Re: ESB and RotJ Vader helmet's -what do we know?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:45 am 
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The pics I posted are all I got...

I'll see if I can pull more out of them, but otherwise...nope.

I didn't personally notice any C scar remnants though... but I didn't get a great look either.


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 Post subject: Re: ESB and RotJ Vader helmet's -what do we know?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:03 am 
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I looked for such things as well. Didn't see anything other than remnants of what is found on DJ/ SL castings.

Come to think of it, this ESB could even be out of that same mold for all we know.

One of my favorite helmets ever. Screen used or not this one is king material.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:20 am 
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Great pics Scott!

The nicks and gouges in the neck area seem to line up well with the Hoth invasion Vader.


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 Post subject: Re: ESB and RotJ Vader helmet's -what do we know?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:55 pm 
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King indeed.
Was the neck extension evident ? Can seem to see it yes or no from the photos ?

Awesome.


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I looked for such things as well. Didn't see anything other than remnants of what is found on DJ/ SL castings.

Come to think of it, this ESB could even be out of that same mold for all we know.

One of my favorite helmets ever. Screen used or not this one is king material.


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 Post subject: Re: ESB and RotJ Vader helmet's -what do we know?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:17 am 
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Here is the description card that was with the helmet:

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I may be mistaken but from everything I have read regarding the TM helmet this Prop Store helmet seems to have a similar story behind it. The card says the helmet was "affixed" to the face. Wasn't the TM dome originally affixed to the facepiece as well? Assuming both helmets were made during ESB production could they both be from the same mold? Who knows? But it sure is interesting and a very cool helmet. Maybe this "Prop Store helmet" does deserve its own thread.


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 Post subject: Re: ESB and RotJ Vader helmet's -what do we know?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:12 am 
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Two more great shots of the helmet and of other props from propstore on Rebelscum.

http://www.rebelscum.com/2015-Celebrati ... rop-Store/


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:38 pm 
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@ Jarenmcl, thank you for posting the pic of the display card! The way it's looking it wouldn't surprise me if this helmet and the TM were brothers.

Thank you for the link, Nick, those are great shots!


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 Post subject: Re: ESB and RotJ Vader helmet's -what do we know?
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Youre welcome buddy. As you said i also think its a TM brother. Wouldnt makes sense for me to have two production made ESB helmets .....used as a stand-in helmet ....and coming from different molds. Would be interesting to know an estimate....dude i love that lid :drool


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:14 pm 
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This thing wasn't slated for auction I don't think. Pretty sure it was just a display item. Anyone know for sure?


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The signage in the display case that Jarenmcl posted says that it is part of the "Company Collection" so I don't think it will be for sale any time soon.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:48 pm 
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My understanding is that the helmet will not be made available for purchase.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:51 pm 
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Man, I'd love to have 5 minutes with that helmet and a pair of calipers.


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 Post subject: Re: ESB and RotJ Vader helmet's -what do we know?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:51 am 
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Youre welcome buddy. As you said i also think its a TM brother. Wouldnt makes sense for me to have two production made ESB helmets .....used as a stand-in helmet ....and coming from different molds. Would be interesting to know an estimate....dude i love that lid :drool


Also think so...have you noticed that the scratches and dents on the nose are there on the TM ,too?

Mhh... Thomas? Hey Thomas where are you if we need you!?
Get your ass here and make some X ray comparsions :lol


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 Post subject: Re: ESB and RotJ Vader helmet's -what do we know?
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:45 pm 
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Mmmm...Vader porn.

That helm really was putting off a siren's song. I had the same reaction. :eek :wtf :drool LOL
GREAT pics...gotta love technology!


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