Darth Niob wrote:
Regarding the special effect...why you think not one of the new movies got an Academy Award for effects? The bad thing with CGI is that the movement and fights looks like in a jump and run game....just remember this crappy Yoda/Dooku fight or the sequences in EP 2 in this arena...when the figures are jumping on or off a monster. Everything looks so unnatural. Remember CGI Yoda or Jabba. The puppets look way more realistic like all the CGI ones. CGI in Lord of the rings was way better but also not perfect. And everything was so excessive colorfull and full of creatures (even in the background) just be able to produce many toys and statues...it was simply to much. All the political story ....the OT doesnt need this. There is really nothing with any cult factor in the PT. Even my grandma who never has watched Star Wars has known what a Stormtrooper or Vader or Jabba is....what is remarkable from the PT.
I admit that the new SW movies will be interesting for the newer fans/childs since they grown up with them, but i doubt that the majority of the OT fans will see these movies with a direct connection to the OT. Just because a company is calling a movie a SW movie doesnt mean its real Star Wars.
My biggest hope is they choose a real cool and talented director like Christopher Nolan and doing SW episodes in a very dark style with some really good actors...not just some Teenie Stars. No movies for childs with Jar Jar Binks, fighting Yodas and big Barbie puppets like Amidala. Good dialogs and esprit with a great movie score from John Williams.At least that would mean to have a chance to see a really good scifi movie but even that wouldnt bring that feeling back i once had with the OT movies.
you do make a good point on the spfx. what you just mentioned and now that i think back and remember . yeah some if was sketchy. specially when the live actors were in the shot. but it was still the best thing of the PT. thats really the point i was trying to make.
but even they didn't win an academy award TPM and AOTC was nominated. i still think some of the spfx was good. specially for the amount of spfx that was used. (like the whole film ) like the pod-racer scenes. those were pretty intense. the space battle scenes or when ever they showed a ship in space. or the planets from a distance. just the scenery on coruscant alone was impressive. and the clone trooper battle scene when the troopers move in and the dust is blowing around from explosions. or the chase of jango fet and obi-wan in the asteroid field in there space ships the slave one and jedi starfighter. i thought those were all good. but your right. when they brought in real life actors you could tell it was CG in some if not most scenes. i guess just the whole aspect and imagination and work that went into those efx was pretty impressive to me. and if they would have left the live actors out then maybe they would have won and award?
well i think we all will be hoping for good actors who have chemestry. that is a must. like Mark, Carrie and Harrison had. when watching the casting tapes you can see the chemistry they all had compared to all the other actors who tried out. even with the other actors doing the lines with Harrison. they didn't have the chemestry. but when Mark and Carrie did it with him. you could see why George choose them for the parts.
Nolan may be good choice.. but i would like to see what James Cameron could do and possibly Peter Jackson. i just hope they have different directors for each film so each film stays fresh.
and i agree. im hoping it will be more for the older fans of star wars like us who grew up with the OT films. not for little kids. but im pretty sure it will be. only becasue George isn't in control any more..:D and that the people who will be doing the new films are people like us. fans of star wars. people who were influenced by it when they were kids.
and john Williams is no brainer. thats the one aspect of star wars that absolutely cannot be changed. you cant have anyone else doing that. the music really is 50% of the films success i think. if you didn't have him doing it. then they might as well not make them then IMHO.
come on man, we all know nothing will ever bring back that feeling we all had as kids watching the OT. dont get me wrong on all the points or opinions im talking about here. there will never ever be anything that will ever replace or be better than the OT. those three films changed the film industry for ever. if it wasn't for those three films. films wouldn't be where they are today. and im talking about all aspects of the film industry. from start to finish and all that there is in between
No Humor Man wrote:
There would be absolutely NO issue with that if they just released the theatrical versions, cleaned up and restored like all other movies. Then no one would mind the continual tweaking and changes.
Just look at how Blade Runner is available in ALL its incarnations! ALL are available... and that is how it should be with Star Wars as well!
yeah thats true possibly. so your saying that no one would mind if they completely remade the OT? im sure some would be irate over that. but i think it would be cool. but didn't they release the theatrical versions on dvd and cleaned them up and restored them a few years back but not on blue ray? im pretty sure they did. and yeah it would be nice if they did make the theatrical versions all cleaned up even more with enhances audio on blue ray. i have the collectors blue ray set and when i put in ANH for the first time on blu ray i was blown away with all the detail. the OT is so ahead of its time when i was watching it on blue ray it was like watching a film from today. in a sense they are the theatrical versions but with added scenes. but to have the actual theatrical versions would definitely bring back the memories of when i was a kid, id put money on it that they will be doing that at some point in th4e near future. they would be foolish not too. they will make a ton of money on it thats for sure.
but i was talking about remaking the OT all together. brand new films with new actors. do them the way Lucas wanted to initially before he found out he couldn't do to the technology and budget he had at the time.